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F.A.Q.
Where
does the name "SUZUKI 7/11 Boulevard" come from?
- by Patrick Fonck
A small suspension setup
guide. - by Mischa Hof
What
should I look for when buying an 1100 engine? - by
Patrick Fonck
What is a "Wheelie
Wire"? - thanks to Mike Jensen
Choosing the right
carbs. - by Patrick Fonck
CV's or Flatslides? -
by Patrick Fonck
Should
I keep the standard airbox or use K&N's ?
Will
the exhaust from an 750 fit a 1100 engine?
Where
does the name "SUZUKI 7/11 Boulevard" come from?
I grew up in Flushing (NL), where they had a boulevard
where me and my biking friend used to meet. I you don't know what
a boulevard is; It's a road which runs along a beach, usually with
a wide footpath on the beachside and shops and hotels/restaurants
on the other side. So it's a perfect place to show off your bike
and get the attention you deserve after a full winter of polishing
;-) This site was meant to be a place where all 7/11 owners/builders
meet to share and learn from each other's experiences.
A
small suspension setup guide.
Usually the factory settings are not that bad for general
use of the bike. My personal experience is that you should just
try what suits yourself best, the thing is that you should feel
happy with the handling, not someone else because we all have different
riding styles (and not to forget body weights ;-) I will tell you
some basic set-up guidelines. The first thing to do is to write
down the actual settings, so you can always go back to what you
have now. Adjust the "negative" travel by setting all
damping to minimum. Measure the maximum length of the spring (maximum
length of the front fork or maximum distance from rear axle to seat
unit) if you pull the bike up. Then measure the static ride height
when the bike is on its wheels. (Keep it straight up, but don't
sit on it or put pressure on it). This length should be 10-15mm
less than the maximum. Adjust this with the spring preload. Then
when you sit on the bike the distance between the rear axle and
the seat unit should be 30-35 mm less than maximum. If it's less,
the spring preload is too stiff. This is in case of carrying a girlfriend
or other luggage. Just find the best way in between. For the damping
I think it's the easiest to set it to the factory settings and take
it from there. Just try to increase and decrease the compression
or rebound by two clicks and try to locate the difference. If you
have little or no experience in feeling the bike, you can try to
set the different damping forces one by one to a crazy low setting,
to get the feeling. Just take care, 'cause the bike will react completely
different from what you're used to. Increase the compression damping
until the point where it makes the bike to harsh, then go one click
back. Increase the rebound until the bike feels precise and stable,
but don't make it more than needed, 'cause the suspension needs
the possibility to decompress. Also during hard braking take care
that the rear wheel does not leave the ground, anyway not to sudden.
Probably all this shit doesn't make to much sense, but just try.
As long as you write down what you do you can always go back where
you came from. If you want to do a real good job you should find
an expert in racing suspension, where you can go with your bike,
because there is a lot of feeling involved, fed by years of experience.
What
should I look for when buying an 1100 engine?
First... the engine you want is an oil cooled
1127cc out of a GSX-R1100K to N (1989 to 1992), any year GSX1100F
or a Bandit 12. When you go shopping for a big engine
for your GSX-R750 there is little chance to see/hear/feel the engine
running because you will probably end up at a breaker's yard or
in someone's shed where you'll be presented with an engine covered
in a thick layer of a mixture of grease, oil and dirt. So what should
you check other than if the engine hasn't been stolen in which case
you take the nearest steel pipe and hit the bastard over the head...?
Like checking a horse's teeth a good way of checking the state of
an engine is taking the cam cover off, which only requires two allen
keys, one for M6 and one for M8. When you have removed it, first
check the cams for wear and pitting, which is like very little craters
on the surface of the cam lobes. Then you put your clean finger
into one of the head's oil pockets and check if there is any metal
debris in the oil (like the glitter stuff in your girlfriend's makeup)
which is a sign that something's worn inside the engine (not necessarily
in the head... anywhere!). Though GSX-R engines are very reliable
I would only buy a low-mileage engine because I think it's worth
to shell out extra money for the most important part of the bike...
a blown shock is much easier to replace than a 5th gear... which
brings me to another subject... Because GSX-R11's have an enormous
amount of torque many people just take it up into 5th gear and use
the pulling power to cruise around countrylanes a.k.a. "lazy
riding". This makes the 5th gear take all the load which in
turn makes it wear faster than usual. You can recognize a worn 5th
gear by a distinctive "whine" coming out of the gearbox
when you shift into 5th at low speed and winding the power on. But
as I said before that will be hard to check with the engine laying
on the floor. If you decided you like the engine start negotiating
about other parts you need, most important the 1100's wiring loom
with the right ignition box and coils, a hydraulic clutch lever
to go with the 1100's hydraulic clutch (all except the first GSX-R750's
use a cable operated clutch) and all other small bits they have
laying around which can come up handy and cost a fortune when you
have to buy them later on like bolts, cables, levers, brackets etc.
etc. because they will probably end up in the bin anyway if you
leave them there.
What
is a "Wheelie Wire"?
For some mysterious reason US GSX-R1100's have a circuit
that retards the ignition in first gear. It's a BLACK/RED wire which
is located behind the left side panel. Cutting it will make your
GSX-R1100 respond like all other in the world... as Mike Jensen
put it "Simply by disconnecting this will shed a claimed
.5 seconds off your dragstrip time, but you may want to invest in
a couple extra taillights because the bike will power wheelie like
crazy. They actually speak about this a little in the October '97
issue of Sport rider magazine."
Below is a piece of the wiring diagram of a 1989/1990 GSX-R1100
on which (30) is the igniter and (25) is the neutral switch.
Choosing
the right carbs.
Many people think larger diameter carbs directly translate
in more power, which is a big mistake and I will try to explain
why.
The task for the carbs is to create a perfect mixture of air and
fuel. Therefore they need air to pass trough them at the correct
speed. At low revs the airflow trough the carbs is also low and
the carbs are having a difficult time getting the fuel to mix properly
with the air. As the revs increase the air speed trough the carbs
also increases and it gets easier to get a good mixture. At top
revs the airflow reaches a maximum and the carbs struggle to move
enough air trough their throats to satisfy the power-hungry engine.
To solve this you can fit larger carbs to let the engine breathe
more freely at large revs increasing top end power. But this also
means that when the revs drop the airflow drops dramatically and
the carbs can't create a proper mixture making throttle response
very bad. In practice you get the following table.
Oil
cooled 1127cc engine
| Carb
diameter |
Effect
on powerband |
| 34mm |
Lots
of power at low revs, struggles at top-end... good for tractor
pulling. |
| 36mm |
Very
good bottom-end, normal top-end... for country lanes. |
| 38mm |
Normal
bottom-end, top-end increases... best compromise. |
| 40mm |
Bad
performance at low revs, goes mental untill it hits the rev
limiter ( takes about one tenth of a second ;-) |
Please
not that this table uses a standard 1127cc engine. When you increase
the capacity of the engine, the carb diameter needs to by increased
proportionally to keep the same powerband.
So it depends on what you're looking for to decide what carbs you
want to use... if you want mucho low-down grunt you go for the 34's
and if you want the bike to go into WARP 9 as soon as the tacho
reaches 10K you go for really big 'uns.
...which
takes me onto the next subject...
CV's
or Flatslides?
I will try not to get too technical on this...
When you open the throttle with CV carbs, they "compare"
the throttle opening with the amount of revs (or vacuum created
by them) to determine the perfect match that gives the best mixture.
This means you can crack the throttle open at any given revs and
the bike will accelerate cleanly, without hesitation. But the CV
carbs always have this valve stuck in their throats, even when fully
opened thus hampering the flow, which is where flatslides come in.
Flatslides only have a big slide that opens as fast as you can jank
open the throttle, but if you are at low revs this will bog the
engine, so you have to carefully "feed" them yourself.
Please
note that I'm only trying to explain the basics here and this is
not a D.I.Y. tuning guide as every part of the engine needs careful
matching for optimum performance. There is a big difference between
"it goes" and "IT GOES!!!".
I
got some comments on this from Ruud Fredriks, who is the Dutch importer
for Dynojet (visit his
site here);
"If
only everything was that simple? On our Dyno everything goes much
quicker and the results in the fact you won't have to ask yourself
if it can be any better. Specially the theory about a flatslide
giving more power because there isn't a valve in the way... have
you ever seen a 600 SuperSports-class racebike go?... and the laptimes
compared to the SuperBikes? We have often compared CV's and flatslides
on our dyno and the CV is still the best carb in the world... for
street use and racing. We have also worked on a 7/11 with 190HP
on the backwheel which had flatslides and therefore wasn't rideable
at all. I rode a comparable bike with CV's and with that one you
can go on vacation with your tent strapped on the back no problem
(and pull wheelies at 200km/h)."
Should
I keep the standard airbox or use K&N's ?
The main reason people junk the airbox and fit K&N's
is because fitment becomes troublesome because the 1100 engine is
taller than the 750 so the alingnment is wrong. When K&N's are
fitted the engine becomes very sensitive to air pressure (barometer
readings), making jetting adjustment neccesary when the weather
changes dramatically, so when the bike runs fine in summer it will
run bad in a cold european winter. Inside the airbox there is allways
the same pressure to make sure the jetting/mixture is allways right
under all conditions.
As for the increase in power... you will gain some top end power,
but low/midrange may suffer. I had to change the main jets from
112 to 140, and now need to stop at every tank station.
So
here are the pro's and con's of K&N's;
Pro's: Easy removal of carbs, nice growl under
the tank, slight power increase.
Con's: Fuel economy changes drastically (for the
worse), makes carburation sensitive to weather changes.
Will
the exhaust from a 750 fit a 1100 engine?
Though
there are some differences in pipe diameter, the pipes allmost always
fit into the head.
But in most cases the pipes from a 750 exhaust will not go down
far enough to fit around the crankcase, since the stroke from the
1100 is longer.
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